Legislature(2021 - 2022)DAVIS 106

02/17/2022 03:00 PM House HEALTH & SOCIAL SERVICES

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03:04:58 PM Start
03:06:08 PM HB265
03:57:32 PM Adjourn
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           HB 265-HEALTH CARE SERVICES BY TELEHEALTH                                                                        
                                                                                                                                
3:06:08 PM                                                                                                                    
                                                                                                                                
CO-CHAIR SNYDER announced  that the only order  of business would                                                               
be HOUSE BILL  NO. 265, "An Act relating  to telehealth; relating                                                               
to  the  practice of  medicine;  relating  to medical  assistance                                                               
coverage for  services provided by telehealth;  and providing for                                                               
an effective date."                                                                                                             
                                                                                                                                
3:07:57 PM                                                                                                                    
                                                                                                                                
REPRESENTATIVE SPOHNHOLZ, as prime  sponsor, presented HB 265 via                                                               
a PowerPoint [hard  copy included in the committee  packet].  She                                                               
said  that  HB  265  would expand  the  telehealth  flexibilities                                                               
created  during  the  COVID-19 pandemic,  as  they  have  allowed                                                               
health care to be more  accessible and affordable.  She mentioned                                                               
prior bills which have addressed  telehealth.  Slide 3 listed the                                                               
payment barriers to telehealth,  as follows: no telehealth parity                                                               
laws; some telehealth services not  covered under Medicaid; and a                                                               
higher  burden  for audio-only  visits.    The slide  listed  the                                                               
regulation barriers  as the  in-person requirement  for selecting                                                               
health care  providers and the  requirement to  document barriers                                                               
before billing.   As shown on  slide 4, she pointed  out that the                                                               
state public health emergency expired  in April 2021.  She stated                                                               
that  the proposed  legislation  would restore  the  best of  the                                                               
telehealth  flexibilities adopted  during the  COVID-19 pandemic,                                                               
and  this  would ensure  high-quality  health  care standards  in                                                               
Alaska.                                                                                                                         
                                                                                                                                
3:12:49 PM                                                                                                                    
                                                                                                                                
REPRESENTATIVE SPOHNHOLZ  proceeded to slides 6-9  and listed the                                                               
three provisions  of HB  265:  removes  the in-person  barrier in                                                               
the  licensing   statute  for  telehealth;   enhances  telehealth                                                               
treatment  for substance  abuse disorders;  and expands  Medicaid                                                               
coverage for  telehealth services and  modalities.  She  said the                                                               
removal  of barriers  would apply  to all  health care  providers                                                               
licensed  in  the  state  and   allow  each  licensing  board  to                                                               
determine  what is  appropriate.   Regarding  the enhancement  of                                                               
telehealth delivery,  HB 265 would allow  physicians, osteopaths,                                                               
and physician  assistants to  write prescriptions  for controlled                                                               
substances  without   an  in-person   visit.    It   would  allow                                                               
practitioners waived  by the  Drug Enforcement  Administration to                                                               
deliver medication-assisted  treatment via telehealth  without an                                                               
in-person   requirement.     Regarding  Medicaid,   the  proposed                                                               
legislation  would ensure  reimbursements  for behavioral  health                                                               
services.   She said that in  order to achieve the  right balance                                                               
while  drafting the  legislation a  variety of  stakeholders have                                                               
been  involved,  including   health  care  providers,  behavioral                                                               
health providers, tribal health, and others.                                                                                    
                                                                                                                                
3:15:49 PM                                                                                                                    
                                                                                                                                
GENEVIEVE  MINA,  Staff,  Representative  Ivy  Spohnholz,  Alaska                                                               
State Legislature,  on behalf of Representative  Spohnholz, prime                                                               
sponsor, offered  the sectional analysis  of HB 265  [included in                                                               
the   committee  packet],   which  read   as  follows   [original                                                               
punctuation provided]:                                                                                                          
                                                                                                                                
     Section 1                                                                                                                  
     Adds a new section on  telehealth under Title 8 for all                                                                    
     health  care  providers  licensed  with  the  State  of                                                                    
     Alaska.  This section  removes the  requirement for  an                                                                    
     in-person  examination prior  to a  telehealth appoint.                                                                    
     Health  care providers  licensed in  a different  state                                                                    
     may  also conduct  telehealth if  referred by  a health                                                                    
     care provider licensed  in Alaska or with  a federal or                                                                    
     tribal health care program.                                                                                                
                                                                                                                                
     Subsections (b) and (c) create  limits for a telehealth                                                                    
     appointment. If a  telehealth appointment falls outside                                                                    
     of a provider's authorized  scope of practice, they may                                                                    
     refer a  patient to an appropriate  clinician. The cost                                                                    
     of a  service delivered through telehealth  must be the                                                                    
     same if it was delivered in person.                                                                                        
                                                                                                                                
     Subsections  (d)  and   (e)  ensures  that  physicians,                                                                    
     osteopaths, physician  assistants can  deliver services                                                                    
     related  to   opioid  use  disorder   (e.g.,  medically                                                                    
     assisted  treatment)  and   controlled  substances  via                                                                    
     telehealth without conducting  an in-person examination                                                                    
     for.  For advanced  practice  registered nurses,  these                                                                    
     same  provisions apply,  with  the addition  of an  in-                                                                    
     person  requirement  for controlled  substances  (other                                                                    
     than buprenorphine).                                                                                                       
                                                                                                                                
     Subsection (f) gives patient or  provider the choice to                                                                    
     decline service  through telehealth in favor  of an in-                                                                    
     person service.                                                                                                            
                                                                                                                                
     Section  2  Removes  the in-person  requirement  in  AS                                                                    
     08.64.364(b)  for an  appropriate health  care provider                                                                    
     to  assist a  patient during  a telehealth  appointment                                                                    
     with  a  physician  or  physician  assistant  regarding                                                                    
     controlled  substances.  This  section  replicates  the                                                                    
     same  provisions  on  cost,   scope  of  services,  and                                                                    
     patient protections as Section 1.                                                                                          
                                                                                                                                
     Section 3 Adds a new  section on telehealth under Title                                                                    
     18  for   emergency  medical  services.   This  section                                                                    
     removes  the requirement  for an  in-person examination                                                                    
     prior   to  a   telehealth   encounter.  This   section                                                                    
     replicates  the  same  provisions  on  cost,  scope  of                                                                    
     services, and patient protections as Section 1.                                                                            
                                                                                                                                
     Section  4 Adds  a  new section  on telehealth  payment                                                                    
     under  Title  47  for  Alaska  Medicaid.  This  section                                                                    
     requires the  Department of Health and  Social Services                                                                    
     to pay  for telehealth services  in the same  manner as                                                                    
     an  in person  service  for  the following:  behavioral                                                                    
     health  services,  Medicaid  waiver  and  demonstration                                                                    
     services; services provided by  a community health aide                                                                    
     or  community  health practitioner,  behavioral  health                                                                    
     aide or  behavioral health practitioner,  dental health                                                                    
     aide  therapist, chemical  dependency counselor;  other                                                                    
     services provided  by an individual or  entity eligible                                                                    
     for     department    certification     and    Medicaid                                                                    
     reimbursement; and  services provided at  rural clinics                                                                    
     and   federally   qualified    health   centers.   This                                                                    
     subsection  also allows  for a  telehealth visit  to be                                                                    
     conducted through any means which  could be useful in a                                                                    
     patient-provider   relationship,    including   through                                                                    
     email, text, and phone call.  Subsection (b) allows for                                                                    
     the department to restrict  the provision of telehealth                                                                    
     services  if  the  telehealth  services,  according  to                                                                    
     substantial   medical   evidence,  cannot   be   safely                                                                    
     delivered via telehealth, or  if the federal government                                                                    
     will  not reimburse  the delivery  of certain  services                                                                    
     provided via telehealth.                                                                                                   
                                                                                                                                
     Sections 5-8 Amends the uncodified  law to instruct the                                                                    
     Department of  Health and Social Services  to submit an                                                                    
     amendment to the state plan  and seek approval from the                                                                    
     U.S. Department of Health and  Human Services if needed                                                                    
     and provides immediate effective  dates for other areas                                                                    
     of this bill.                                                                                                              
                                                                                                                                
3:19:40 PM                                                                                                                    
                                                                                                                                
REPRESENTATIVE  SPOHNHOLZ, in  reference to  stakeholders, stated                                                               
that in  the following  week she would  present to  the committee                                                               
some modest changes to the proposed legislation.                                                                                
                                                                                                                                
3:21:54 PM                                                                                                                    
                                                                                                                                
APRIL  KYLE, President  and CEO,  Southcentral Foundation  (SCF),                                                               
expressed  hope that  the health  care  system would  be able  to                                                               
incorporate what  had been learned during  the COVID-19 pandemic.                                                               
She described  HB 265 as "a  step toward that."   She stated that                                                               
prior  to  the  pandemic,  the  tribal  health  system  had  been                                                               
delivering  health  care  across  Alaska  for  decades,  but  not                                                               
without  barriers,  such  as  reliance   on  video  services  for                                                               
reimbursement,  which  is not  feasible  in  many places  in  the                                                               
state.  As  a result, there were some  telehealth deliveries, but                                                               
many times health  care relied on transporting  [patients] to hub                                                               
communities or  Anchorage.  She stated  that at the start  of the                                                               
pandemic, SCF had changed its  service delivery model "overnight"                                                               
to create safe, in-person care,  clinically sound video care, and                                                               
good audio  care.  Care  teams from  the areas of  mental health,                                                               
addiction services,  and primary  care partnered with  people and                                                               
families to  determine the best  type of  care needed.   She said                                                               
this resulted in "good clinical  outcomes and cost savings."  She                                                               
emphasized the  importance of  bringing people  the type  of care                                                               
needed "in real time" so their health would not spiral downward.                                                                
                                                                                                                                
3:25:17 PM                                                                                                                    
                                                                                                                                
NANCY   MERRIMAN,  Executive   Director,   Alaska  Primary   Care                                                               
Association, testified  in support  of HB 265.   She  stated that                                                               
the  proposed legislation  would expand  telehealth in  Alaska by                                                               
increasing  access   to  primary   care  and   behavioral  health                                                               
services.    She listed  the  following  benefits:   a  range  of                                                               
telehealth modalities;  the option for patients  and providers to                                                               
engage  outside  a  clinical   setting;  and  reimbursements  for                                                               
telehealth  visits.   She  stated  that  in 2020  health  centers                                                               
served 105,000 patients  through 450,000 visits.   She noted that                                                               
substance abuse disorder treatment is  one of the fastest growing                                                               
areas of  telehealth.   She added  that the  temporary telehealth                                                               
policy  changes  benefited  health   centers,  as  now  they  are                                                               
recognized as  telehealth treatment  providers.  She  spoke about                                                               
the challenges  of accessing health  care centers and  the number                                                               
of patients who live in  underserved rural communities.  She said                                                               
in 2021  a cohort of health  centers reported that 59  percent of                                                               
telehealth services  occurred by  phone and  41 percent  by audio                                                               
and video.   She reported  that telehealth for  behavioral health                                                               
now represents 35  percent of all telehealth usage.   She further                                                               
reported that the use of  telehealth visits has resulted in fewer                                                               
dropped visits  and less delayed  care.  She urged  the committee                                                               
to support HB 265.                                                                                                              
                                                                                                                                
3:29:42 PM                                                                                                                    
                                                                                                                                
PRESTON   SIMMONS,   CEO,   Providence  Alaska   Medical   Center                                                               
("Providence"),  testified in  support of  HB 265.   He  reported                                                               
that  in 2020  Providence served  more than  12,000 Alaskans  via                                                               
telehealth.  He said behavioral  health represented 31 percent of                                                               
this,  with  the  other areas  being  internal  medicine,  family                                                               
medicine, pediatrics, and maternal and  fetal medicine.  He spoke                                                               
about  health care  transformation to  improve overall  economics                                                               
and  health  outcomes.    He  advised  that  the  state  has  the                                                               
opportunity  to  use  what  it learned  during  the  pandemic  to                                                               
modernize the health care system,  while also taking advantage of                                                               
the federal advancements in broadband infrastructure.                                                                           
                                                                                                                                
MR.  SIMMONS  urged the  state  to  stop incentivizing  the  most                                                               
expensive  forms of  health  care, giving  the  example of  using                                                               
emergency rooms for  primary care.  He  talked about Providence's                                                               
initiative to modernize how it  serves communities in Alaska.  He                                                               
stated that the  top 10 percent of health care  users account for                                                               
"a  vast majority  of costs."   He  shared that  individuals have                                                               
explained  that they  use  the emergency  room  for primary  care                                                               
because  emergency rooms  are  on  public transportation  routes,                                                               
while other  facilities often  are not.   Telehealth  removes the                                                               
barriers related  to transportation, improves health  equity, and                                                               
strengthens patient relationships,  while "incentivizing the most                                                               
appropriate  care settings."   He  talked about  the benefits  of                                                               
telehealth,  not only  in Anchorage,  but in  other areas  of the                                                               
state.    He  mentioned  helping   patients  near  their  support                                                               
network, including helping COVID-19  patients via telehealth.  He                                                               
talked  about scheduling  telehealth  appointments  by phone  and                                                               
empowering Alaskans to  make informed health care  decisions.  He                                                               
said Providence  averaged 120 virtual  visits per day  during the                                                               
height  of  the pandemic.    He  indicated  that there  has  been                                                               
improved health  outcomes because of  telehealth, and he  said HB
265 would allow the good work being done to continue.                                                                           
                                                                                                                                
3:35:03 PM                                                                                                                    
                                                                                                                                
TOM   CHARD,  Executive   Director,   Alaska  Behavioral   Health                                                               
Association (ABHA),  testified in support  of HB 265.   He stated                                                               
that  the  proposed legislation  would  improve  access to  care,                                                               
patient satisfaction,  provider satisfaction, and  the efficiency                                                               
and  outcomes of  the care  received.   He said  that during  the                                                               
federal and state public health  emergencies, ABHA set aside some                                                               
regulations and  removed regulatory  barriers, which  resulted in                                                               
the  exponential expansion  of behavioral  health in  telehealth.                                                               
He noted  that the annual  Medicaid report published  in November                                                               
[2021] highlighted  that the top  diagnoses were in  the category                                                               
of behavioral  health.  He  stated that the option  of telehealth                                                               
had removed  barriers, such as transportation  issues, child care                                                               
issues,  or  [scheduling  issues   related  to]  jobs  or  school                                                               
attendance.    He  emphasized  that  the  federal  public  health                                                               
emergency would expire  on 4/15/22, and on the  next day benefits                                                               
gained over the last couple years  could be lost.  He stated that                                                               
HB 265 would  extend those benefits by  extending the flexibility                                                               
around  modality,   removing  the  in-person   requirements,  and                                                               
ensuring payment  parity.  He said  within the past two  years at                                                               
Providence  no-show  rates  have  dropped and  more  people  have                                                               
received care, with patients and  providers being more satisfied.                                                               
He urged the passage of HB 265.                                                                                                 
                                                                                                                                
3:39:18 PM                                                                                                                    
                                                                                                                                
CO-CHAIR SNYDER opened public testimony on HB 265.                                                                              
                                                                                                                                
3:39:40 PM                                                                                                                    
                                                                                                                                
JOHN SOLOMON, Director,  Behavioral Health, Maniilaq Association,                                                               
shared that  before the  pandemic he had  flown into  villages to                                                               
provide in-person  counseling services.   He emphasized  that "up                                                               
here" telehealth is  not about getting better health  care; it is                                                               
about getting  any care at  all.  He  indicated there was  an 800                                                               
percent increase  in those  seeking care  when telehealth  was an                                                               
option, and  he said those were  people who had been  waiting for                                                               
care.  He expressed support for telehealth.                                                                                     
                                                                                                                                
3:41:08 PM                                                                                                                    
                                                                                                                                
SHANNON   DAVENPORT,  RN,   Alaska   Nurses  Association   (ANA),                                                               
testified  that ANA  supports  HB 265  because  it would  provide                                                               
"continuity of care,"  as nurses would be able  to follow-up with                                                               
patients  at home  via  telehealth.   Furthermore,  as a  hospice                                                               
nurse, she  said telehealth  has made it  easier for  families to                                                               
say  goodbye to  their loved  ones.   She stated  that telehealth                                                               
services  have opened  avenues for  those who  were unable  to be                                                               
seen by  a provider in person.   She reiterated ANA's  support of                                                               
HB 265.                                                                                                                         
                                                                                                                                
3:43:06 PM                                                                                                                    
                                                                                                                                
CO-CHAIR SNYDER closed public testimony on HB 265.                                                                              
                                                                                                                                
3:43:16 PM                                                                                                                    
                                                                                                                                
REPRESENTATIVE FIELDS said he supports  many of the provisions in                                                               
the  proposed  legislation;  however,  he would  like  to  ensure                                                               
Alaskans are choosing  available doctors in the  state as opposed                                                               
to paying  doctors in the  Lower 48.   To clarify, he  pointed to                                                               
language which  would amend AS 08.01,  on page 1 of  the proposed                                                               
legislation, line 9-12, which read:                                                                                             
                                                                                                                                
     If  a  health  care  provider is  licensed  in  another                                                                    
     state, the  health care  provider may  provide services                                                                    
     under this  section only to  a patient who  is referred                                                                    
     by a health care provider  licensed under this title or                                                                    
     a federal or tribal health care program.                                                                                   
                                                                                                                                
REPRESENTATIVE  FIELDS  explained  that  he  does  not  want  the                                                               
proposed legislation to undermine  Alaska's limited and necessary                                                               
health care workforce.                                                                                                          
                                                                                                                                
3:44:11 PM                                                                                                                    
                                                                                                                                
REPRESENTATIVE SPOHNHOLZ  responded that  this is  important, and                                                               
it will be  addressed in the upcoming committee  substitute.  She                                                               
explained  that  this  would  allow  for  follow-up  visits  with                                                               
specialists via telehealth  after an in-person visit  to a doctor                                                               
in the Lower 48.                                                                                                                
                                                                                                                                
3:45:28 PM                                                                                                                    
                                                                                                                                
REPRESENTATIVE  FIELDS opined  that  one of  the more  disturbing                                                               
developments has  been the growing  investment in health  care by                                                               
Wall  Street,  and he  advised  that  a  loophole should  not  be                                                               
created  which  "outsiders  could  exploit to  the  detriment  of                                                               
Alaska."                                                                                                                        
                                                                                                                                
3:46:04 PM                                                                                                                    
                                                                                                                                
REPRESENTATIVE   MCCARTY   expressed    concern   regarding   the                                                               
requirement  that in-state  providers be  licensed while  out-of-                                                               
state providers are not required to  be licensed.  He said "do no                                                               
harm"  does   not  extend  to  unlicensed   providers  unless  an                                                               
interstate compact exists.                                                                                                      
                                                                                                                                
3:47:34 PM                                                                                                                    
                                                                                                                                
REPRESENTATIVE  SPOHNHOLZ responded  that the  upcoming committee                                                               
substitute  would  address  this   issue.    She  clarified  that                                                               
Alaskans  would   be  allowed   to  have  follow-up   visits  via                                                               
telehealth  with providers  in the  Lower 48  in regard  to "very                                                               
unique specialty care"  not available in the state.   She offered                                                               
some examples of this.                                                                                                          
                                                                                                                                
3:50:28 PM                                                                                                                    
                                                                                                                                
REPRESENTATIVE MCCARTY offered his  understanding that there were                                                               
some [providers]  licensed in Alaska  who were "rogue."   He said                                                               
that the  state investigated the individuals;  however, once they                                                               
leave the state, they are no  longer licensed.  He opined that it                                                               
was great  to offer  telehealth during an  emergency period.   He                                                               
related  that he  has heard,  "when it  ended," providers  do not                                                               
want  to pay  the licensing  fees in  Alaska.   He expressed  the                                                               
opinion that this is offensive.                                                                                                 
                                                                                                                                
3:51:57 PM                                                                                                                    
                                                                                                                                
CO-CHAIR SNYDER  noted that  this issue had  been addressed  in a                                                               
past  session,  and  she  asked if  there  were  any  significant                                                               
changes in the proposed legislation.                                                                                            
                                                                                                                                
3:52:48 PM                                                                                                                    
                                                                                                                                
MS. MINA responded  that the main differences would  be the focus                                                               
on health care providers licensed  in Alaska and the expansion of                                                               
Medicaid services.   She said the language in HB  265 is narrower                                                               
than previous legislation.                                                                                                      
                                                                                                                                
3:53:28 PM                                                                                                                    
                                                                                                                                
REPRESENTATIVE FIELDS  asked if  it would  be possible  to charge                                                               
non-licensed providers to  practice in Alaska.   He then inquired                                                               
about equitable payment for telehealth  and what other states are                                                               
doing.                                                                                                                          
                                                                                                                                
3:54:14 PM                                                                                                                    
                                                                                                                                
REPRESENTATIVE SPOHNHOLZ,  to the  first question,  answered that                                                               
the solution would be to have  a registration fee, which could be                                                               
equivalent  to  a license  fee.    She  said that  the  committee                                                               
substitute  would affect  a  very  narrow class  of  people.   To                                                               
Representative  Fields' second  question,  she said  historically                                                               
telehealth is  done at a  lower rate,  and sometimes there  is an                                                               
associated telehealth  service fee.  The  problem, she explained,                                                               
is  "that   hasn't  supported   the  marketplace   in  developing                                                               
telehealth."   She indicated that  telehealth may not  have brick                                                               
and mortar costs, but it has technology-related costs.                                                                          
                                                                                                                                
[HB 265 was held over.]                                                                                                         

Document Name Date/Time Subjects
HB 265 Sponsor Statement 01.26.22.pdf HHSS 2/17/2022 3:00:00 PM
HB 265
HB 265 Letters of Support - U.S. Renal Care 01.21.22.pdf HHSS 2/17/2022 3:00:00 PM
HB 265
HB 265 - Version W.PDF HHSS 2/17/2022 3:00:00 PM
HB 265
HB 265 Sectional Analysis - Version W 01.26.22.pdf HHSS 2/17/2022 3:00:00 PM
HB 265
HB 265 v W Fiscal Note - DCCED Licensing.pdf HHSS 2/17/2022 3:00:00 PM
HB 265
HB 265 v W Fiscal Note - DOH DBH Behavioral Health Administration.pdf HHSS 2/17/2022 3:00:00 PM
HB 265
HB 265 v W Fiscal Note - DOH DMS Medicaid Services.pdf HHSS 2/17/2022 3:00:00 PM
HB 265
HB 265 v W Fiscal Note - DOH HCS Medical Assistance Administration.pdf HHSS 2/17/2022 3:00:00 PM
HB 265
HB 265 Presentation 02.16.22.pptx HHSS 2/17/2022 3:00:00 PM
HB 265
HB 265 Testimony - Received as of 2.16.2022.pdf HHSS 2/17/2022 3:00:00 PM
HB 265